Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:25293 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 24968 invoked by uid 1010); 10 Aug 2006 14:45:59 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 24953 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2006 14:45:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Aug 2006 14:45:59 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; domainkeys=good DomainKey-Status: good X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 66.249.92.169 ug-out-1314.google.com Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from ([66.249.92.169:19668] helo=ug-out-1314.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.3 r(11751M)) with ESMTP id CF/95-08715-5A64BD44 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 10:45:59 -0400 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id k3so527782ugf for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 07:45:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ifTWvrI8huhbQqim+aDftKYtWMJuljgyYxULIAVIWD1HRnYnLzFcuEZGP2a5Vtd+hx+70H359cCUzXVNR2z4uUFPVTgjHauls2YfXnzBfcQ9OuVHA6oDw23y1Q5mQTWCTKDuOyfAupdGipmrxNr0yKHlnZy1QlJ1Vt11IvE6iAA= Received: by 10.66.220.17 with SMTP id s17mr2671144ugg; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 07:45:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.248.15 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 07:45:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 16:45:54 +0200 To: "Derick Rethans" Cc: "Ilia Alshanetsky" , "Michael Walter" , internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <877e9a170608100302n6407821dw5e55187332b74f4f@mail.gmail.com> <3295496D-D427-4C0A-B0FD-393CAA22D4CB@prohost.org> <877e9a170608100635k257e47c8x53b42b52eee0b670@mail.gmail.com> <1AB5A095-30CB-4B3D-A7B8-5305F566896E@prohost.org> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Fatal errors From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre) Hello, On 8/10/06, Derick Rethans wrote: > On Thu, 10 Aug 2006, Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: > > > > > On 10-Aug-06, at 9:35 AM, Michael Walter wrote: > > > > > What do you feel is incorrect about allowing mentioned errors to be > > > handled in userspace? > > > > My feeling is that errors such as visibility violations should be addressed > > during debugging and Q&A phase where simple error logging will be sufficient > > to track them. > > And I feel this is even more true for calling undefined functions or > methods... Ok, I repeat again what I said, please *read*: It has nothing to do with undefined function or method. Having a fatal error here is insane. --Pierre