Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:25280 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 7609 invoked by uid 1010); 10 Aug 2006 10:55:03 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 7594 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2006 10:55:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Aug 2006 10:55:03 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=michael.walter@gmail.com; domainkeys=good DomainKey-Status: good X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: michael.walter@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.233.182.185 nf-out-0910.google.com Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from ([64.233.182.185:19591] helo=nf-out-0910.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.3 r(11751M)) with ESMTP id 11/97-08715-5801BD44 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 06:55:03 -0400 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c2so534584nfe for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:54:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=PEhWxapHEAKjOxtyMBoCZX9oCgiPqB842Rz4lsvsbnIOV6YLhczp7dNb8St8xyab+hyMibDVRJ0qig3aKFuhGCmkjbMUm98VAAEhdLQ8rR6bJl0D6U9JWOxKP9CvR3cTphGKn6fZcLuQFvqhhxMdfkHPPaeI6S9Czfh/VC6FfCU= Received: by 10.78.177.3 with SMTP id z3mr1179670hue; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:54:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.23.3 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:54:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <877e9a170608100354n239cd1f0q1f44bef9680ce91d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 12:54:58 +0200 To: "Lukas Kahwe Smith" Cc: internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <44DB0DB5.6000707@php.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <877e9a170608100302n6407821dw5e55187332b74f4f@mail.gmail.com> <44DB0DB5.6000707@php.net> Subject: Re: Fatal errors From: michael.walter@gmail.com ("Michael Walter") Yeah. It is problematic that the application has no chance of dealing with the errors itself (consider e.g. php-shell which has to go great lengths to prevent fatal errors from user code leading to php-shell's termination, and still fails at doing this in the general case). Regards, Michael On 8/10/06, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: > Michael Walter wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > right now, PHP triggers fatal errors e.g. when accessing private > > members or calling nonexistant functions. Since this is problematic > > for obvious reasons, what technical reasons are there for that > > behavior, and is there a chance that this behaviour will change in a > > future release? > > what is "problematic" here? Are you simply suggesting to make them > E_RECOVERABLE since they do not really leave the engine in a broken state? > > regards, > Lukas >