Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:25148 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 86366 invoked by uid 1010); 2 Aug 2006 19:23:02 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 86351 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2006 19:23:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Aug 2006 19:23:02 -0000 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: helly@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 81.169.182.136 ajaxatwork.net Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from ([81.169.182.136:48077] helo=strato.aixcept.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.3 r(11751M)) with ESMTP id 7F/92-44390-49BF0D44 for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 15:23:01 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.3] (dslb-084-063-031-228.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.63.31.228]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by strato.aixcept.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E48C135C1F0; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 21:22:57 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 21:23:04 +0200 Reply-To: Marcus Boerger X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <733879432.20060802212304@marcus-boerger.de> To: Pierre Cc: internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <20060802124140.4a240596@pierre-u64> References: <18810497049.20060801234124@marcus-boerger.de> <1154478748.6599.16.camel@blobule> <267142688.20060802024210@marcus-boerger.de> <20060802124140.4a240596@pierre-u64> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RfC: rethink OO inheritance strictness From: helly@php.net (Marcus Boerger) Hello Pierre, if you cannot read stop blaming me. It was Robert and not Christian. And then read carefully again. You might get the connection. If not i am all sorry. marcus Wednesday, August 2, 2006, 12:41:40 PM, you wrote: > On Wed, 2 Aug 2006 02:42:10 +0200 > helly@php.net (Marcus Boerger) wrote: >> Hello Robert, >> >> Wednesday, August 2, 2006, 2:32:27 AM, you wrote: >> >> > To make a better language. Following all the sheep out there just >> > makes for more fodder. Just because it's in the books, doesn't make >> > it the best way. Innovation doesn't come by following the pack it >> > almost always comes from changing the game. >> >> This is a ridiculous accusation of my person directly - but thanks. >> We chose a damn good set available yet working. And i invented for >> example iterators in php, sorry it is only that. But it is far most >> the best iterator implementation any language out there has. And i am >> not paid for anything (like most of us) so sorry we cannot do it >> better. > It is a discussion where developers and users tell their opinion on a > technical (or theoretical) topic. It is the second time in this thread > that you jumped out of your big horse to say such things. It is > pointless. The fact that you work on the iterators or whatever else > does not make you right, not more than me or Christian. >> Instead of argumenting like this you guys should start helping us. > It is what I do, as much if not more as you do, and I second Robert's > opinion. And I do not say that you are responsible for all PHP's recent > troubles, only that I have the same *opinion* than him on this topic. > -- Pierre Best regards, Marcus