Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:25147 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 80200 invoked by uid 1010); 2 Aug 2006 19:10:28 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 80185 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2006 19:10:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Aug 2006 19:10:28 -0000 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lsmith@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.112.227.169 ipx11223.ipxserver.de Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from ([212.112.227.169:33171] helo=ipx11223.ipxserver.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.3 r(11751M)) with ESMTP id 47/12-44390-3A8F0D44 for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 15:10:28 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ipx11223.ipxserver.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00562DF0199; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 21:53:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ipx11223.ipxserver.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (flottensignalgeber [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19408-10; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 21:53:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (i577B52EC.versanet.de [87.123.82.236]) by ipx11223.ipxserver.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FD64DF006F; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 21:53:15 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44D0F89E.8040406@php.net> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:10:22 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rasmus Lerdorf Cc: Zeev Suraski , pierre.php@gmail.com, internals@lists.php.net, Christian Schneider References: <18810497049.20060801234124@marcus-boerger.de> <44CFDB2B.1010907@cschneid.com> <20060802010156.5be0258c@pierre-u64> <44CFDF89.6010506@lerdorf.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20060802153119.0c2193c0@zend.com> <44D0DB82.1070307@lerdorf.com> In-Reply-To: <44D0DB82.1070307@lerdorf.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by somedaemon at backendmedia.com Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RfC: rethink OO inheritance strictness From: lsmith@php.net (Lukas Smith) Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > Sure, and I agree that we should find a comfortable middleground, I'd > just like to see a little less criticism of Marcus and some more > civilized discussion. As far as I am concerned, Marcus' approach of Nobody has criticized Marcus work. I have not heard anyone claim that the additions are not useful. There was just questions if we should not preserve the old way and what should be the default. The only thing I criticize Marcus for is to call everybody stupid that thinks the old way had its uses. But that is unrelated to his awesome work on PHP OOP. regards, Lukas