Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:25120 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 46612 invoked by uid 1010); 2 Aug 2006 12:56:53 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 46597 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2006 12:56:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Aug 2006 12:56:53 -0000 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: hartmut@mysql.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 213.136.52.68 mailgate-out2.mysql.com Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from ([213.136.52.68:47304] helo=mailgate.mysql.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.3 r(11751M)) with ESMTP id C8/6F-45114-211A0D44 for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 08:56:52 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailgate.mysql.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k72CulO0014815; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:56:47 +0200 Received: from mail.mysql.com ([10.222.1.99]) by localhost (mailgate.mysql.com [10.222.1.98]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with LMTP id 04547-06; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:56:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.100.64.53] (10-100-64-53.mysql.internal [10.100.64.53]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.mysql.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k72CuiUf024313 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:56:44 +0200 Message-ID: <44D0A104.7040805@mysql.com> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:56:36 +0200 Organization: MySQL AB User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.1) Gecko/20060130 SeaMonkey/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RQuadling@googlemail.com CC: Ron Korving , internals@lists.php.net References: <18810497049.20060801234124@marcus-boerger.de> <1154478748.6599.16.camel@blobule> <5D.33.45114.9A960D44@pb1.pair.com> <44D07EDE.4030001@mysql.com> <10845a340608020444g79e1da83vdf1cc27ae9ae183d@mail.gmail.com> <44D09085.3000906@mysql.com> <10845a340608020551v6624a344k2e9ec42d099c81bb@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <10845a340608020551v6624a344k2e9ec42d099c81bb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mailgate.mysql.com Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RfC: rethink OO inheritance strictness From: hartmut@mysql.com (Hartmut Holzgraefe) Richard Quadling wrote: > That was done before, so it could be done again. In principle, there > is nothing wrong with refactoring or even rewriting, except time and > effort. totally changing the underlying type concept in an incompatible way is not refactoring, and even as a rewrite i'm strongly in doubt whether the result deserves to go by the same name as the original > We have OOP developers wanting OOP things that they've seen working > fine in other languages and non-OOP'ers wondering why! Is function overloading really "an OOP thing"? > As this is a discussion forum, all things SHOULD be considered! There is a difference between discussion and brainstorming ... -- Hartmut Holzgraefe, Senior Support Engineer . MySQL AB, www.mysql.com