Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:25112 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 88575 invoked by uid 1010); 2 Aug 2006 10:41:46 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 88560 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2006 10:41:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Aug 2006 10:41:46 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.79.190.163 r163.red.fastwebserver.de Received: from ([217.79.190.163:15831] helo=localhost.localdomain) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.3 r(11751M)) with ESMTP id 5D/79-45114-86180D44 for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 06:41:45 -0400 To: internals@lists.php.net,Marcus Boerger Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:41:40 +0200 Message-ID: <20060802124140.4a240596@pierre-u64> In-Reply-To: <267142688.20060802024210@marcus-boerger.de> References: <18810497049.20060801234124@marcus-boerger.de> <1154478748.6599.16.camel@blobule> <267142688.20060802024210@marcus-boerger.de> Reply-To: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Newsreader: Sylpheed-Claws 2.1.1 (GTK+ 2.8.18; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Posted-By: 217.79.190.163 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RfC: rethink OO inheritance strictness From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre) On Wed, 2 Aug 2006 02:42:10 +0200 helly@php.net (Marcus Boerger) wrote: > Hello Robert, > > Wednesday, August 2, 2006, 2:32:27 AM, you wrote: > > > To make a better language. Following all the sheep out there just > > makes for more fodder. Just because it's in the books, doesn't make > > it the best way. Innovation doesn't come by following the pack it > > almost always comes from changing the game. > > This is a ridiculous accusation of my person directly - but thanks. > We chose a damn good set available yet working. And i invented for > example iterators in php, sorry it is only that. But it is far most > the best iterator implementation any language out there has. And i am > not paid for anything (like most of us) so sorry we cannot do it > better. It is a discussion where developers and users tell their opinion on a technical (or theoretical) topic. It is the second time in this thread that you jumped out of your big horse to say such things. It is pointless. The fact that you work on the iterators or whatever else does not make you right, not more than me or Christian. > Instead of argumenting like this you guys should start helping us. It is what I do, as much if not more as you do, and I second Robert's opinion. And I do not say that you are responsible for all PHP's recent troubles, only that I have the same *opinion* than him on this topic. -- Pierre