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Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:55:12 -0400
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RfC: rethink OO inheritance strictness
From: robert@interjinn.com (Robert Cummings)

On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 02:42 +0200, Marcus Boerger wrote:
> Hello Robert,
> 
> Wednesday, August 2, 2006, 2:32:27 AM, you wrote:
> 
> > To make a better language. Following all the sheep out there just makes
> > for more fodder. Just because it's in the books, doesn't make it the
> > best way. Innovation doesn't come by following the pack it almost always
> > comes from changing the game.
> 
> This is a ridiculous accusation of my person directly - but thanks. We

This was not meant as a personal attack. I'm sorry you took it that way.
It was meant as my perception on the idealogy of following the pack.

> chose a damn good set available yet working. And i invented for example
> iterators in php, sorry it is only that. But it is far most the best
> iterator implementation any language out there has. And i am not paid
> for anything (like most of us) so sorry we cannot do it better.
> 
> And this time i mean it like i wrote it.
> 
> Instead of argumenting like this you guys should start helping us.

Agreed. Unfortunately I have no time right now. When I have time, as
I've said to Rasmus before on the general list... I'll make sure and
help. Unfortunately that could be a while since I have two kids and a
wife still in school and I'm the sole breadwinner at the moment.

I love PHP and have since I started using it in 2000. I've been somewhat
active on the boards, and probably should have gotten involved with the
project back when I had free time... hindsight is 20/20.

Anyways just to repeat, I didn't mean my comments to be a personal
attack, I know you work hard, I know everyone involved with PHP work
hard, I'm was just giving opinion in general.

Cheers,
Rob.

Ps. sorry my from address is all over the place. I recently upgrade my
mail client and stuff is messed up... such as the default account.
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