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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 19:17:43 -0400
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] New Installer for PHP 5.2
From: kingwez@gmail.com ("Wez Furlong")

I see no sense in maintaining a "lite" installer; the people that need
an installer will want everything.  If people want to cherry-pick,
they can do it themselves using the .zip downloads and pecl4win.

--Wez.

On 8/1/06, Richard Lynch <ceo@l-i-e.com> wrote:
> On Mon, July 24, 2006 9:55 am, Ilia Alshanetsky wrote:
> >
> > On 24-Jul-06, at 10:52 AM, John Mertic wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks to Edin Kadribasic, the public test version ( which installs
> >> a
> >> recent snapshot of PHP 5.2 ) is located at
> >> http://downloads.php.net/edink/php-5.2.0-win32-installer.msi.
> >>
> >> I am looking for feedback on the installer, namely in the following
> >> areas:
> >>
> >> - Default install options; what should the default install consist
> >> of?
> >
> > I'd say it should contain all of the extensions that are enabled by-
> > default.
> >
> >
> >> - Lite Installer. The current install file weighs in at 18mb. Would
> >> we
> >> want a lite installer with fewer components and if so what would
> >> those
> >> be?
> >
> > I think if the 1st is done the size of the file should be much
> > smaller, if not we can examine the enabled extensions one by one and
> > perhaps turn off some of the "less important" ones.
>
> Given the number of Windows users who can't find the DLLs they need,
> I'd have to say that "more is better" for the "Full Install" -- Any
> DLL you can manage to compile and test should be there for them to
> check on/off and just use it with no more effort.
>
> At the other end of the spectrum, I'm going to assume that, sooner or
> later, a Lite Windows user will need some DLL that isn't in "Lite".
>
> So I'd almost go so far as to suggest that Lite should have *nothing*
> except php.exe and the SAPI DLLs and instructions on how/where to find
> any other DLLs they might want that match their version.
>
> Because we pretty much get a question every couple days on PHP-General
> whose answer boils down to one of:
> a) find the DLL for the extension you want that matches your version
> b) you cannot mix-n-match DLL versions for extensions
>
> PHP Windows Users are clearly "not getting it" on this extension DLL
> thing...
>
> :-)
>
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