Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:25080 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 59442 invoked by uid 1010); 1 Aug 2006 17:09:06 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 59427 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2006 17:09:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Aug 2006 17:09:06 -0000 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ceo@l-i-e.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 67.139.134.202 o2.hostbaby.com FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) (2) Received: from ([67.139.134.202:4470] helo=o2.hostbaby.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.3 r(11751M)) with ESMTP id 53/11-45114-FF58FC44 for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 12:49:03 -0400 Received: (qmail 99962 invoked by uid 98); 1 Aug 2006 16:49:03 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by o2.hostbaby.com (envelope-from , uid 1013) with qmail-scanner-1.25 ( Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.073171 secs); 01 Aug 2006 16:49:03 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: ceo@l-i-e.com via o2.hostbaby.com X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.25 (Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.073171 secs) Received: from unknown (HELO l-i-e.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Aug 2006 16:49:02 -0000 Received: from 67.108.68.40 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ceo@l-i-e.com) by www.l-i-e.com with HTTP; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:49:02 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <5243.67.108.68.40.1154450942.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> In-Reply-To: <90DAC8FF-B715-45E1-97AB-4FD166188FB3@prohost.org> References: <2a9adcf0607240752k12eb8f32sd753eaadaac6e8cc@mail.gmail.com> <90DAC8FF-B715-45E1-97AB-4FD166188FB3@prohost.org> Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:49:02 -0500 (CDT) To: "John Mertic" Cc: internals@lists.php.net Reply-To: ceo@l-i-e.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] New Installer for PHP 5.2 From: ceo@l-i-e.com ("Richard Lynch") On Mon, July 24, 2006 9:55 am, Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: > > On 24-Jul-06, at 10:52 AM, John Mertic wrote: >> >> Thanks to Edin Kadribasic, the public test version ( which installs >> a >> recent snapshot of PHP 5.2 ) is located at >> http://downloads.php.net/edink/php-5.2.0-win32-installer.msi. >> >> I am looking for feedback on the installer, namely in the following >> areas: >> >> - Default install options; what should the default install consist >> of? > > I'd say it should contain all of the extensions that are enabled by- > default. > > >> - Lite Installer. The current install file weighs in at 18mb. Would >> we >> want a lite installer with fewer components and if so what would >> those >> be? > > I think if the 1st is done the size of the file should be much > smaller, if not we can examine the enabled extensions one by one and > perhaps turn off some of the "less important" ones. Given the number of Windows users who can't find the DLLs they need, I'd have to say that "more is better" for the "Full Install" -- Any DLL you can manage to compile and test should be there for them to check on/off and just use it with no more effort. At the other end of the spectrum, I'm going to assume that, sooner or later, a Lite Windows user will need some DLL that isn't in "Lite". So I'd almost go so far as to suggest that Lite should have *nothing* except php.exe and the SAPI DLLs and instructions on how/where to find any other DLLs they might want that match their version. Because we pretty much get a question every couple days on PHP-General whose answer boils down to one of: a) find the DLL for the extension you want that matches your version b) you cannot mix-n-match DLL versions for extensions PHP Windows Users are clearly "not getting it" on this extension DLL thing... :-) -- Like Music? http://l-i-e.com/artists.htm