Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:2507 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 13608 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2003 20:20:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailout08.sul.t-online.com) (194.25.134.20) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 21 Jun 2003 20:20:10 -0000 Received: from fwd11.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19ToqG-0008CQ-04; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 22:20:08 +0200 Received: from there (S92uW8Z-ZeYNGEzIF9JPRMDAZlJdY9o-wDCiaRBLApznTKcsd1idYN@[217.230.27.116]) by fmrl11.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19ToqA-162mKu0; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 22:20:02 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: Sterling Hughes , internals@lists.php.net Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 22:17:05 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] References: <1056210210.26964.4.camel@hasele> In-Reply-To: <1056210210.26964.4.camel@hasele> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <19ToqA-162mKu0@fmrl11.sul.t-online.com> X-Seen: false X-ID: S92uW8Z-ZeYNGEzIF9JPRMDAZlJdY9o-wDCiaRBLApznTKcsd1idYN@t-dialin.net Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] removing bundled libmysql From: georg@php.net (Georg Richter) Hi all, as maintainer of ext/mysql and ext/mysqli I'm standing between php and mysql, and I spent a lot of time on both extensions, so don't ask me :) Currently bundled libmysql prevents users to violate license. If you need an external lib, you normally download latest stable, which is 4.0.x and is GPL. According to the MySQL license, you need a commercial license when using PHP 4 with MySQL 4.x, cause PHP license isn't a) OSI approved and b) GPL compatible. We have the same problem with ext/mysqli which isn't compatible to GPL, and will be removed therefore from PHP 5 beta. The combination with MySQL was one of the reasons that PHP growed up to one of the best and most used scripting languages. PHP was one reason, that MySQL became one the most popular OpenSource databases. So I ask you, is it really necessary, that we try to force a decision. Zak is already working on license problems, incompatibility and possible solutions. Wouldn't it be better to give him and MySQL AB a little bit more time? Just my 2 cents Georg