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Reply-To: Marcus Boerger <helly@php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RfC: rethink OO inheritance strictness
From: helly@php.net (Marcus Boerger)

Hello Michael,

  first of all the decision never was my decision, second i am not going
to let peole run into problem hell. I coded enough PHP 4 OO to see that
it didn't make any sense and caused a lot of errors in the code we wrote
back then. But once again it is not my decision, i was not even my choice
of OO model. The only thing i might have to excuse myself for is that i
spent hundreds and hundreds of hours to get the oo code work at all and
yes i know that we still have problems. Nothing more to say here, go hunt
the guys that decide, not idiots devoting free time to make this all work.

best regards
marcus

p.s.: I am not a Java fan, infact i avoid it wherever possible.

Friday, July 21, 2006, 10:55:05 AM, you wrote:

> Hi (Marcus),

> unfortunately I'm not very happy with the direction OO strictness takes
> in PHP.  I'm sure I'm not alone and many people second this feeling.


> Precisely, let's have a look at the following:

> mike@honeybadger:~/build/php-5.2-debug$ cli -d"error_reporting=8191" -r
> 'class c{function f(){}} class d extends c{function f($a){}}'
> Strict Standards: Declaration of d::f() should be compatible with that of
> c::f() in Command line code on line 1

> mike@honeybadger:~/build/php-unicode-debug$ cli -d"error_reporting=8191"
> -r 'class c{function f(){}} class d extends c{function f($a){}}'
> Fatal error: Declaration of d::f() must be compatible with that of c::f() in Command line code on line 1


> I *really* think that this enforcements are no good idea and
> I _beg_ you that we leave this "area" to interfaces.


> Regards,
> -- 
> Michael




Best regards,
 Marcus