Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:24707 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 46234 invoked by uid 1010); 19 Jul 2006 17:36:11 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 46212 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2006 17:36:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Jul 2006 17:36:11 -0000 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: sean@caedmon.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 69.60.120.90 iconoclast.caedmon.net Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from ([69.60.120.90:44133] helo=iconoclast.caedmon.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.3 r(11751M)) with ESMTP id 41/58-10398-50D6EB44 for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:33:58 -0400 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by iconoclast.caedmon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1G3FuQ-0005mb-00; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:32:30 -0400 Message-ID: <44BE6CF2.7080400@caedmon.net> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:33:38 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marco CC: Antony Dovgal , pierre.php@gmail.com, internals@lists.php.net References: <20060719173451.114d4528@pierre-u64> <44BE56EF.9060908@zend.com> <2fd662a00607190951v5cf70faaxa750c7aa100cecd9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2fd662a00607190951v5cf70faaxa750c7aa100cecd9@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Adding pecl/zip to 5.2 From: sean@caedmon.net (Sean Coates) > From my experiences the problem with this is many shared hosts wont install > non core modules, so the more modules moved from core to pecl the less > flexible php will be and the less use it will be. > > I understand the need to keep the core code maintained and as clean and > lean > as possible, but we also need to look at what developers need to create > applications that can be used with mass virtual hosting. This is a valid point, but it represents a chicken-and-egg problem. Shared hosts are used to deploying PHP Proper and ignoring PECL, because in the past, core was the only repository for everything. As PECL grows in popularity (and as users demand more PECL installations), we can hope this these hosts become more flexible. At least that's what _I_ think. S