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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Missing __toString() part
From: helly@php.net (Marcus Boerger)

Hello Andi,

  you don't read my proposals, do you? If you read them you will find
that i actually proposed to add a function that uses exactly what you
just wrote here.

best regards
marcus

Sunday, June 4, 2006, 5:35:25 PM, you wrote:

> Yes, I realize that but it doesn't happen today and I don't think we 
> couldn't make this a rule (requiring extensions to have unique id's 
> per classes). In any case, we can always make it the following string:
> "id=<ht table address in hex>#unique id"

> Andi

> At 08:18 AM 6/4/2006, Marcus Boerger wrote:
>>Hello Andi,
>>
>>   the classname doesn't help, it is the handler that you need. In theory
>>you can have two objects with the same id and classname but not with the
>>same id and handler table.
>>
>>best regards
>>marcus
>>
>>Sunday, June 4, 2006, 5:14:46 PM, you wrote:
>>
>> > At 08:08 AM 6/4/2006, Marcus Boerger wrote:
>> >>Hello Andi,
>> >>
>> >>   it was your own argument that the id itself is not unique when some
>> >>time ago somebody wanted to have access to that id from userland. And
>> >>it is also the reason for SplObjectStorage the way it is today.
>>
>> > The object id itself is not unique, but coupled with the class name
>> > it is. All this means is that the unique id has to be a string and
>> > not a number. I mentioned in the past that it'd be a problem to have
>> > a number as the unique id.
>>
>> >>By 'it hash' nothing to do with hash' i mean that the classname does
>> >>not belong into a hash.
>>
>> > My point is that the string "ClassName#id" is what would be the
>> > unique identifier. e.g. that's what toKey() would return (assuming
>> > we'd want such a method).
>>
>> > Andi
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Best regards,
>>  Marcus




Best regards,
 Marcus