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Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 09:03:45 -0700
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Flamewar Summary
From: andi@zend.com (Andi Gutmans)

At 04:26 PM 5/16/2006, Ilia Alshanetsky wrote:
>There are 2 PHP 5.2 changes there has been a lot of back and forth
>flaming going around and we need to finally come to a decision about.
>
>The two topics are:
>
>Inclusion of E_STRICT and E_RECOVERABLE_ERROR into E_ALL
>Addition of support for dynamic statics ala: class foo {} foo::$bar = 1;
>
>So please throw in your +1/-1 so, that we can have a conclusion on
>these matters.
>
>Personally, I am against both changes.


I second that with two -1's.

Andi


>I think the error reporting level change is too major change for a
>minor release such as 5.2 and will cause problems for all the people
>who use things like E_ALL &~ E_NOTICE and will now
>see E_STRICT messages that is not their intent to see, with the
>setting they are only anticipating warnings and errors. Given that
>most people don't bother to turn of displaying of errors, it could
>have an affect on quite a few applications, very few big PHP apps can
>run without generating any E_STRICT messages.
>
>As far as statics, there are no BC reasons not to do it that I can
>think of, but it just seems wrong to me from a design perspective to
>allow dynamic creation of static object properties.
>
>Ilia Alshanetsky
>Advanced Internet Designs Inc.
>ilia@prohost.org
>
>P.S. Please stay on topic.
>
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