Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:23513 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 68868 invoked by uid 1010); 17 May 2006 07:53:43 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 68853 invoked from network); 17 May 2006 07:53:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 May 2006 07:53:43 -0000 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: bu@orbitel.bg X-Host-Fingerprint: 195.24.32.29 vmail-1.orbitel.bg Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from ([195.24.32.29:52349] helo=vmail-1.orbitel.bg) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id 5E/3C-19568-486DA644 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 03:53:41 -0400 Received: from localhost (mailprotection [10.0.0.2]) by vmail-1.orbitel.bg (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204CB1F287 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 10:53:37 +0300 (EEST) Received: from vmail-1.orbitel.bg ([10.0.0.1]) by localhost (sof-rv1.orbitel.bg [10.0.0.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27455-26 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 10:49:29 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.129] (unknown [213.91.217.139]) by vmail-1.orbitel.bg (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE221F285 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 10:53:35 +0300 (EEST) Reply-To: bu@orbitel.bg To: internals@lists.php.net Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 10:53:33 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <6C67DAD9-B812-415A-BFD6-A4E963371551@prohost.org> In-Reply-To: <6C67DAD9-B812-415A-BFD6-A4E963371551@prohost.org> X-Face: "c4tG*FY$8"*gUsm0B.S%v5*[!@-f4J`V@OaocG0\)x]-G`$Hy1#tWj~4VvL@6s X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at orbitel.bg Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Flamewar Summary From: bu@orbitel.bg (Petar Nedyalkov) --nextPart2833162.N9K6sdUk4p Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 17 May 2006 02:26, Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: > There are 2 PHP 5.2 changes there has been a lot of back and forth > flaming going around and we need to finally come to a decision about. > > The two topics are: > > Inclusion of E_STRICT and E_RECOVERABLE_ERROR into E_ALL +1 > Addition of support for dynamic statics ala: class foo {} foo::$bar =3D 1; =2D1 I already gave my opinion on that. > > So please throw in your +1/-1 so, that we can have a conclusion on > these matters. > > Personally, I am against both changes. > > I think the error reporting level change is too major change for a > minor release such as 5.2 and will cause problems for all the people > who use things like E_ALL &~ E_NOTICE and will now > see E_STRICT messages that is not their intent to see, with the > setting they are only anticipating warnings and errors. Given that > most people don't bother to turn of displaying of errors, it could > have an affect on quite a few applications, very few big PHP apps can > run without generating any E_STRICT messages. > > As far as statics, there are no BC reasons not to do it that I can > think of, but it just seems wrong to me from a design perspective to > allow dynamic creation of static object properties. > > Ilia Alshanetsky > Advanced Internet Designs Inc. > ilia@prohost.org > > P.S. Please stay on topic. =2D-=20 Cyberly yours, Petar Nedyalkov Devoted Orbitel Fan :-) PGP ID: 7AE45436 PGP Public Key: http://bu.orbitel.bg/pgp/bu.asc PGP Fingerprint: 7923 8D52 B145 02E8 6F63 8BDA 2D3F 7C0B 7AE4 5436 --nextPart2833162.N9K6sdUk4p Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBEataBLT98C3rkVDYRArpoAJ4lNHHAyN6b/77HodRTBZTGTSwyhACeJZdh wpawgoDGc4z43aEiRec+e68= =VNle -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2833162.N9K6sdUk4p--