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To: PHP Internals List <internals@lists.php.net>
Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 19:26:37 -0400
Sender: Ilia Alshanetsky <iliaal@gmail.com>
Subject: Flamewar Summary
From: ilia@prohost.org (Ilia Alshanetsky)

There are 2 PHP 5.2 changes there has been a lot of back and forth  
flaming going around and we need to finally come to a decision about.

The two topics are:

Inclusion of E_STRICT and E_RECOVERABLE_ERROR into E_ALL
Addition of support for dynamic statics ala: class foo {} foo::$bar = 1;

So please throw in your +1/-1 so, that we can have a conclusion on  
these matters.

Personally, I am against both changes.

I think the error reporting level change is too major change for a  
minor release such as 5.2 and will cause problems for all the people  
who use things like E_ALL &~ E_NOTICE and will now
see E_STRICT messages that is not their intent to see, with the  
setting they are only anticipating warnings and errors. Given that  
most people don't bother to turn of displaying of errors, it could  
have an affect on quite a few applications, very few big PHP apps can  
run without generating any E_STRICT messages.

As far as statics, there are no BC reasons not to do it that I can  
think of, but it just seems wrong to me from a design perspective to  
allow dynamic creation of static object properties.

Ilia Alshanetsky
Advanced Internet Designs Inc.
ilia@prohost.org

P.S. Please stay on topic.