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To: internals@lists.php.net,Marcus Boerger <helly@php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] private, protected, readonly, public
From: cschneid@cschneid.com (Christian Schneider)

Marcus Boerger wrote:
>   i changed from readonly to readable, which means the new keyword makes it
> public for any read access, that is:

So much for "readable" being obvious (i.e. you have to explain it).

>    private readable $abc;
>    - class itself can read and write
>    - public for everybody when reading, inside & outside of the class
> 
>    protected readable $abc;
>    - class itself can read and write
>    - sub-class can read and write
>    - public for everybody when reading, inside & outside of the class
> 
>    public readable $abc;
>    - just as public alone

Does anyone apart from me wonder why we need to bloat the language for 
an obscure feature like this? Please take a step back, take a deep 
breath, count to 10 and that's *really* what the PHP community has been 
waiting for.

Please don't extend PHP until it accepts something like
	final static private readable $x;
because it could turn your brain into guacamole if you have to read code 
like that ;-)

PS: If anyone wants me to write a patch or test for "readable": No 
problem, I can write a patch disallowing "readable" quite quickly and 
I'd even sit down to write a test failing if readable is allowed in 
declarations (-:C

- Chris