Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:23406 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 91230 invoked by uid 1010); 15 May 2006 19:04:30 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 91214 invoked from network); 15 May 2006 19:04:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 May 2006 19:04:30 -0000 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: markus@fischer.name X-Host-Fingerprint: 213.46.255.14 viefep14-int.chello.at Solaris 8 (1) Received: from ([213.46.255.14:39712] helo=viefep12-int.chello.at) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id 51/8C-19568-CB0D8644 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 15:04:29 -0400 Received: from genuine ([80.108.128.16]) by viefep12-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with ESMTP id <20060515190424.KZZS11056.viefep12-int.chello.at@genuine>; Mon, 15 May 2006 21:04:24 +0200 Received: from laptop.home ([192.168.1.50]) by genuine with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1FfiKS-0002db-Sd; Mon, 15 May 2006 21:02:09 +0200 Message-ID: <4468D0B4.9010305@fischer.name> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 21:04:20 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcus Boerger CC: Greg Beaver , Steph Fox , Pierre-Alain Joye , internals@lists.php.net References: <138663365.20060514205903@marcus-boerger.de> <038d01c676f8$ab9b3380$6602a8c0@foxbox> <44685D24.2000801@php.net> <1408277471.20060515204040@marcus-boerger.de> In-Reply-To: <1408277471.20060515204040@marcus-boerger.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -27 X-Spam-Level: -- X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "genuine", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Marcus Burger wrote: > Ones again E_ALL is for development. Is this the statement of all developers or only yours? [...] Content analysis details: (-2.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.8 ALL_TRUSTED Did not pass through any untrusted hosts Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] E_ALL changes in 5.2/6.0 From: markus@fischer.name (Markus Fischer) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Marcus Burger wrote: > Ones again E_ALL is for development. Is this the statement of all developers or only yours? I have to enable E_ALL on live servers (display_errors to 0), because whatever resource you have at your hand, you just can't make sure that all code paths work properly with all the possible user inputs. It's just not possible. So by logging E_ALL and trying to monitor the log regularly is the only change to spot problems. I would go crazy and have no sleep anymore if I wouldn't do that because I would have no feedback at all how our application performs. You can't just sit and wait for user bug reports. - - Markus -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEaNC01nS0RcInK9ARAq/3AKDF4hQto1TeVzE/VRi0j54/Dg9kUwCgwO8q CyR2MtSqWdF+HBMp2Y9cV1Y= =gOMf -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----