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Reply-To: "Steph Fox" <steph@zend.com>
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Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 18:08:51 +0200
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Release Process Sucks
From: steph@zend.com ("Steph Fox")

Stefan,

Ironically
> after that incident another Zend man came forward and dares to say "I
> don't trust our core testers anymore"

He dared to say it because there's a QA mechanism in place that isn't 
working - AKA a bunch of application developers testing Release Candidates 
on their real-world applications rather than testing only against PHP's own 
test suite. If any of them had done so, they would have picked up the 
problem with user input arrays straight away. They evidently didn't, and 
didn't.

I don't see what's so 'ironic' about mentioning that, and I certainly don't 
think it's any kind of bad thing that Tony went on to request extra time 
prior to 5.1.4's being tagged so that he could download a bunch of PHP 
applications out there and run his own real-world tests.


- Steph