Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:23366 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 77147 invoked by uid 1010); 15 May 2006 13:23:30 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 77131 invoked from network); 15 May 2006 13:23:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 May 2006 13:23:30 -0000 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: iliaal@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.233.184.230 wr-out-0506.google.com Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from ([64.233.184.230:33452] helo=wr-out-0506.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id 86/3C-19568-1D088644 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 09:23:29 -0400 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i23so832682wra for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 06:23:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer:sender; b=WrVWa23o4Ye4lLNp/RjJWuMfldHjxmsZlvfete8WneY61zR9/0IZWs+EYd6g0VH8J/KhDYoBku9YcH+lt5+4Qzt6uMGGbf3O/7ifq9IaheNCVJry/Kkr3LXRhQHO51HGjT3FaI9IEBnKi+RDULGh7SJ/C47SVBBaeRhlSunPQbk= Received: by 10.65.231.13 with SMTP id i13mr886485qbr; Mon, 15 May 2006 06:23:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.6? ( [72.59.8.142]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e15sm1917559qbe.2006.05.15.06.23.24; Mon, 15 May 2006 06:23:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <138663365.20060514205903@marcus-boerger.de> <038d01c676f8$ab9b3380$6602a8c0@foxbox> <44685D24.2000801@php.net> <2D48AB6B-8E19-4274-8E0C-AFEC7BA1702B@prohost.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v750) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-ID: <22A06B02-0F5B-4A77-956C-DA2B5F26D4C7@prohost.org> Cc: Greg Beaver , Steph Fox , Marcus Boerger , Pierre-Alain Joye , internals@lists.php.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 09:23:18 -0400 To: Derick Rethans X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) Sender: Ilia Alshanetsky Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] E_ALL changes in 5.2/6.0 From: ilia@prohost.org (Ilia Alshanetsky) I suggest that we add E_STRICT now, but not include E_STRICT into E_ALL, so people who are not using E_STRICT error reporting level don't have their applications start spewing strict messages. We cannot force people to change their code, all we can reasonably do is provide notification mechanism, for those who do. On 15-May-06, at 9:16 AM, Derick Rethans wrote: > On Mon, 15 May 2006, Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: > >> My opinion is that if we intend to make something stop working >> (give fatal >> error) in future releases we need to provide some form of notice >> be it >> E_STRICT or E_NOTICE to our users now, so they can anticipate the >> change. As >> far as inclusion of E_STRICT into E_ALL, I think this is a good >> idea, but is >> probably premature for the 5.2 release. > > Then when do you suggest we add it (before 6.0)? > > regards, > Derick > Ilia Alshanetsky Advanced Internet Designs Inc. ilia@prohost.org