Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:23354 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 14030 invoked by uid 1010); 15 May 2006 06:43:57 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 14015 invoked from network); 15 May 2006 06:43:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 May 2006 06:43:57 -0000 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lsmith@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.112.227.169 ipx11223.ipxserver.de Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from ([212.112.227.169:52991] helo=ipx11223.ipxserver.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id 6C/F7-19568-C2328644 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 02:43:56 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ipx11223.ipxserver.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518D5DF0081; Mon, 15 May 2006 08:45:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ipx11223.ipxserver.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ipx11223 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22368-07; Mon, 15 May 2006 08:45:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (i577B734B.versanet.de [87.123.115.75]) by ipx11223.ipxserver.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 843A1DF006B; Mon, 15 May 2006 08:45:00 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4468231D.6000604@php.net> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 08:43:41 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derick Rethans Cc: Marcus Boerger , internals@lists.php.net References: <138663365.20060514205903@marcus-boerger.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by somedaemon at backendmedia.com Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] E_ALL changes in 5.2/6.0 From: lsmith@php.net (Lukas Smith) Derick Rethans wrote: > On Sun, 14 May 2006, Marcus Boerger wrote: > >> That said i am about to not remove E_STRICT from E_ALL and MFH the php >> 6.0 to item just now. >> See: http://oss.backendmedia.com/PhP60 (add E_STRICT to E_ALL DONE (dmitry)) >> >> Since this is for the benefit of the users to prevent issues with >> changes in behavior from my opinion it is best to do this behavior >> change as early as possible, which is in my opinion 5.2 anyway. >> >> That said i'll let it in and if there is no valid argument against, i >> will put it into the NEWS file and the newly started README.UPDATE_5_2. > > Yup, I agree on this. The key point is that with reading the upgrading guide people will know howto get the old behavior. I do not quite agree that this change is necessary, but I guess the "ALL" in "E_ALL" implies it includes everything, so its logical on that level. regards, Lukas PS: Obviously this will be quite painful for PEAR, but I guess that is partially the point here: create some pains to nudge people towards writing PHP5 only code. Or maybe its just about covering our asses against users who complain about us removing deprecated functionality after a few minor releases.