Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:23324 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 38693 invoked by uid 1010); 12 May 2006 21:58:00 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 38662 invoked from network); 12 May 2006 21:58:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 May 2006 21:58:00 -0000 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rasmus@lerdorf.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 204.11.219.139 lerdorf.com Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from ([204.11.219.139:54776] helo=lerdorf.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id 97/A6-19568-7E405644 for ; Fri, 12 May 2006 17:57:59 -0400 Received: from [192.168.200.106] (c-24-6-5-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.6.5.134]) (authenticated bits=0) by lerdorf.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/Debian-1) with ESMTP id k4CLvmT0006289; Fri, 12 May 2006 14:57:52 -0700 Message-ID: <446504DC.4060203@lerdorf.com> Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 14:57:48 -0700 User-Agent: Thunderbird 3.0a1 (Macintosh/20060414) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jason Garber CC: itrebal@gmail.com, Hartmut Holzgraefe , Bastian Grupe , internals@lists.php.net, Andi Gutmans References: <785810036.20060511193536@ionzoft.com> <4464AC64.5050706@gmail.com> <4464C6C9.40307@php.net> <4464C8AE.1050806@gmail.com> <4464CF54.7070802@php.net> <2e24b1e00605121216x6c873e0eo5efaf960f5e00a74@mail.gmail.com> <09347954.20060512164435@ionzoft.com> In-Reply-To: <09347954.20060512164435@ionzoft.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] private, protected, readonly, public From: rasmus@lerdorf.com (Rasmus Lerdorf) Jason Garber wrote: > There are a lot of casual users of PHP. There are also the people > out there who are buying the Zend products, buying the MySQL support > contracts, using PHP at Yahoo! -- the people who have chosen to use > PHP OVER Java/.NET/Perl, because it is a great language -- the > people who need the completed features because they are running > multi-million-dollar businesses on this platform. Multi-billion in the case of Yahoo! and we can speak for ourselves. The things you listed are irrelevant to us. We have much bigger fish to fry and we are doing so. -Rasmus