Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:23253 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 10712 invoked by uid 1010); 11 May 2006 15:38:20 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 10697 invoked from network); 11 May 2006 15:38:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 May 2006 15:38:20 -0000 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: bertrand@toggg.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.27.42.28 smtp2-g19.free.fr Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from ([212.27.42.28:43404] helo=smtp2-g19.free.fr) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id 44/47-19568-C6A53644 for ; Thu, 11 May 2006 11:38:20 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.3] (lns-bzn-57-82-249-12-116.adsl.proxad.net [82.249.12.116]) by smtp2-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C998A732A6; Thu, 11 May 2006 17:38:15 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44635AB2.1030208@toggg.com> Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 17:39:30 +0200 Reply-To: bertrand@toggg.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7-1.1.fc3 (X11/20050929) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pierre.php@gmail.com CC: internals@lists.php.net References: <20060511143720.33323294@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20060511143720.33323294@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Stop Breaking Our Apps For the Sake of OO From: bertrand@toggg.com (bertrand Gugger) Pierre wrote: > I forgot to mention how vicious such changes can be. Most of times the > related tests are "updated" in the same commit (or right after) to > follow the new behavior. Making nearly impossible to know about the > breakages without duplicating core tests in our apps. Also commit > messages or changelog entries are rarely explicit enough to mention > them. a big +1 -- toggg