Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:23246 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 31993 invoked by uid 1010); 11 May 2006 12:47:27 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 31978 invoked from network); 11 May 2006 12:47:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 May 2006 12:47:27 -0000 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: php-php-dev@m.gmane.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 80.91.229.2 main.gmane.org Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from ([80.91.229.2:57869] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id 45/6C-19568-D5233644 for ; Thu, 11 May 2006 08:47:25 -0400 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1FeAZQ-0008L4-JP for internals@lists.php.net; Thu, 11 May 2006 14:47:09 +0200 Received: from 85.19.74.66 ([85.19.74.66]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 11 May 2006 14:47:08 +0200 Received: from sb by 85.19.74.66 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 11 May 2006 14:47:08 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: internals@lists.php.net Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 14:47:00 +0200 Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <20060511143720.33323294@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.19.74.66 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060506) In-Reply-To: <20060511143720.33323294@localhost.localdomain> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Sender: news Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Stop Breaking Our Apps For the Sake of OO From: sb@sebastian-bergmann.de (Sebastian Bergmann) Pierre wrote: > I forgot to mention how vicious such changes can be. Most of times the > related tests are "updated" in the same commit (or right after) to > follow the new behavior. Making nearly impossible to know about the > breakages without duplicating core tests in our apps. Also commit > messages or changelog entries are rarely explicit enough to mention > them. Maybe we could set up a testing system that runs the tests from PHP_4_4, PHP_5_0, PHP_5_1, and HEAD and shows the differences? That way we would notice that a test that passed with a previous version fails with a newer one. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://www.sebastian-bergmann.de/ GnuPG Key: 0xB85B5D69 / 27A7 2B14 09E4 98CD 6277 0E5B 6867 C514 B85B 5D69