Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:23138 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 70836 invoked by uid 1010); 4 May 2006 00:05:48 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 70821 invoked from network); 4 May 2006 00:05:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 May 2006 00:05:48 -0000 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: jochem@iamjochem.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 194.109.193.121 mx1.moulin.nl Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from ([194.109.193.121:47687] helo=mx1.moulin.nl) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id 0B/77-63443-B5549544 for ; Wed, 03 May 2006 20:05:48 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.moulin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21DFD19D24E; Thu, 4 May 2006 02:05:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mx1.moulin.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (moulin [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06222-08; Thu, 4 May 2006 02:05:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.0.13.54] (ip129-15-211-87.adsl2.versatel.nl [87.211.15.129]) by mx1.moulin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B7216812B; Thu, 4 May 2006 02:05:39 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44594553.6020009@iamjochem.com> Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 02:05:39 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rick Widmer CC: "D. Dante Lorenso" , PHPdev References: <44584619.60400@lorenso.com> <200605030815.34801.johannes@php.net> <44585828.1030603@vocalspace.com> <44585E89.6000400@vocalspace.com> <44586BDF.6040600@developersdesk.com> <4459410D.9090802@vocalspace.com> <445942E9.201@developersdesk.com> In-Reply-To: <445942E9.201@developersdesk.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at moulin.nl Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Seeking 'coalesce' php internal function From: jochem@iamjochem.com (Jochem Maas) Rick Widmer wrote: > D. Dante Lorenso wrote: > >> No, that doesn't address the problem. See this: > > > print @ifsetor($x, $y, $z, "dante")."\n"; point 1: regardless of how people think there should be an ifsetor() in the engine - the devs don't so there wont be one. point 2: anything trying to implement this functionality in userspace is a hack. (to stregethen that stance: Rasmus reiterated the point a few days ago [can't remember which mailinglist] that people should be trying to write *error free* code - ergo the error suppression is not a proper solution) Dante, live with the hack. :-) >