Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:23082 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 16471 invoked by uid 1010); 2 May 2006 17:52:48 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 16456 invoked from network); 2 May 2006 17:52:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 May 2006 17:52:48 -0000 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: iliaal@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.233.162.206 nz-out-0102.google.com Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from ([64.233.162.206:49721] helo=nz-out-0102.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id 68/FE-05123-F6C97544 for ; Tue, 02 May 2006 13:52:47 -0400 Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 34so2566142nzf for ; Tue, 02 May 2006 10:52:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer:sender; b=bjieajiJ5xNKYKm7qerA4bfCpnFTY3hqzeprSO+feRAZ91FWXptam35Ye4CfKSmNFfqUKrGikjGudtZrfTKr9z/AkkOU0txm756Q/NhX+x2VMIb6khNLJTMyE0A7MhamT6zUutV5iEnFSCW2M3GB3nyhPWzf7rjjoS4KnRJsC/s= Received: by 10.36.66.3 with SMTP id o3mr1530500nza; Tue, 02 May 2006 10:52:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.6? ( [72.59.8.142]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 17sm787164nzo.2006.05.02.10.52.42; Tue, 02 May 2006 10:52:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <69.4E.05123.BEA97544@pb1.pair.com> References: <44572F67.9050807@php.net> <69.4E.05123.BEA97544@pb1.pair.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-ID: <284A6440-A62E-4A69-9FA6-4DCAF588511C@prohost.org> Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 13:52:40 -0400 To: Ron Korving X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Sender: Ilia Alshanetsky Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] php 5.2.0 From: ilia@prohost.org (Ilia Alshanetsky) While adding an optimizer to APC is definitely a good thing, but ultimately APC is an external tool, we want to make the language itself to become faster. There are series of things that became a bit slower since 4.4, some have been resolved, others are still pending. These are the things 5.2 will attempt to address. On 2-May-06, at 1:44 PM, Ron Korving wrote: > Well, I'm in no position to ask anyone for anything, but... here > goes anyway > ;) > > APC is a good caching mechanism, but is lacking in optimization > features, > where for example (to my knowledge anyway) Zend Optimizer is doing > a good > job. Since it looks like APC is going to be included in PHP 6 by > default, > maybe it's getting more and more interesting to invest time in > optimization > algorithms to enhance APC? I think it's probably the one area in > which the > most performance gain for users can be achieved. > Ilia Alshanetsky Advanced Internet Designs Inc. ilia@prohost.org