Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:22970 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 31221 invoked by uid 1010); 26 Apr 2006 07:02:15 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 31205 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2006 07:02:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Apr 2006 07:02:14 -0000 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ceo@l-i-e.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 67.139.134.202 o2.hostbaby.com FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) (2) Received: from ([67.139.134.202:2430] helo=o2.hostbaby.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id 2E/96-19715-6FA1F444 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 03:02:14 -0400 Received: (qmail 27067 invoked by uid 98); 26 Apr 2006 07:02:18 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by o2.hostbaby.com (envelope-from , uid 1013) with qmail-scanner-1.25 ( Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.065946 secs); 26 Apr 2006 07:02:18 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: ceo@l-i-e.com via o2.hostbaby.com X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.25 (Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.065946 secs) Received: from unknown (HELO l-i-e.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Apr 2006 07:02:18 -0000 Received: from 67.184.121.112 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ceo@l-i-e.com) by www.l-i-e.com with HTTP; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 02:02:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <52035.67.184.121.112.1146034938.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> In-Reply-To: <2fd662a00604252043oae22f4p50b1f4fc7ddf27f7@mail.gmail.com> References: <44405E58.8040808@lerdorf.com> <44409342.4030706@php.net> <11b601c66057$76abf540$6602a8c0@foxbox> <44409681.8010406@php.net> <11cb01c6605a$0aab4f00$6602a8c0@foxbox> <44409A09.1000207@php.net> <11e401c6605c$40f9faa0$6602a8c0@foxbox> <44409DB7.1070704@php.net> <122c01c6605f$6dacab30$6602a8c0@foxbox> <2fd662a00604150104q7d869048n2e6e158a301077d6@mail.gmail.com> <2fd662a00604252043oae22f4p50b1f4fc7ddf27f7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 02:02:18 -0500 (CDT) To: "Marco" Cc: "internals" Reply-To: ceo@l-i-e.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] script upgrading program was Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Summerof Code From: ceo@l-i-e.com ("Richard Lynch") On Tue, April 25, 2006 10:43 pm, Marco wrote: > does > anyone have any suggestions on how we can encourage the deployment of > php > 5? Other routes: Convince the webhosts it's 100% backwards-compatible, and easy to upgrade, and provides better resource management so they can cram in more users and make more money. Provide white-papers, stats, and testimonials on the ease of upgrading. Point to needed features in PHP5. SOAP is the one that made a convert of me, if that helps :-) It also helps that PHP 5 is as, what?, 5.2 now??? Talking about PHP 6 will push some into PHP 5 as well, as they know they don't want to be TOO far behind. FUD, basically, but there it is. -- Like Music? http://l-i-e.com/artists.htm