Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:22969 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 65728 invoked by uid 1010); 26 Apr 2006 05:19:26 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 65713 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2006 05:19:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Apr 2006 05:19:26 -0000 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: jasper@album.co.nz X-Host-Fingerprint: 210.55.31.88 mail.album.co.nz Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from ([210.55.31.88:47755] helo=mail.album.co.nz) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id 72/6C-19715-CD20F444 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 01:19:25 -0400 Received: from mail.album.co.nz (www.album.co.nz [127.0.0.1]) by mail.album.co.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57BEDE64FE; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 17:19:17 +1200 (NZST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1-gr0 (2006-03-10) on www.album.co.nz X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=unavailable version=3.1.1-gr0 Received: from [192.168.225.244] (gate1.digiweb.net.nz [202.174.112.3]) by mail.album.co.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D54B67B2; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 17:19:16 +1200 (NZST) Message-ID: <444F0307.5080807@album.co.nz> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 17:20:07 +1200 Organization: Album Limited User-Agent: Mail/News 1.5 (X11/20060309) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marco CC: Greg Beaver , internals References: <44405E58.8040808@lerdorf.com> <44409681.8010406@php.net> <11cb01c6605a$0aab4f00$6602a8c0@foxbox> <44409A09.1000207@php.net> <11e401c6605c$40f9faa0$6602a8c0@foxbox> <44409DB7.1070704@php.net> <122c01c6605f$6dacab30$6602a8c0@foxbox> <2fd662a00604150104q7d869048n2e6e158a301077d6@mail.gmail.com> <2fd662a00604252043oae22f4p50b1f4fc7ddf27f7@mail.gmail.com> <444EF2BF.7080900@php.net> <2fd662a00604252119w444a1e96kd8fe9c30af1a0d0d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2fd662a00604252119w444a1e96kd8fe9c30af1a0d0d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] script upgrading program was Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Summerof Code From: jasper@album.co.nz (Jasper Bryant-Greene) Marco wrote: >> The same way anything is encouraged in this programming world. Write >> killer apps that only work in PHP 5+. This is a thread that will be >> more at home on php-general@lists.php.net > > How can you write killer apps in php5 when less than 5% of low costs > hosting providers support it? Its a viciousc cycle. hosts wont support php5 > because apps dont work with it, and apps wont worth with it until hosts > support php5. I guess a lot of hosts are scared from the php3 to php4 > upgrade which caused quite a few problems The fact that hosts don't support PHP5 doesn't prevent you from writing killer apps in PHP5, which will encourage them to upgrade as their users start pressuring them... Jasper