Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:22941 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 13441 invoked by uid 1010); 25 Apr 2006 05:11:43 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 13426 invoked from network); 25 Apr 2006 05:11:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Apr 2006 05:11:42 -0000 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ceo@l-i-e.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 67.139.134.202 o2.hostbaby.com FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) (2) Received: from ([67.139.134.202:3691] helo=o2.hostbaby.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id 85/80-19715-C8FAD444 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 01:11:42 -0400 Received: (qmail 46268 invoked by uid 98); 25 Apr 2006 05:11:43 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by o2.hostbaby.com (envelope-from , uid 1013) with qmail-scanner-1.25 ( Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.06563 secs); 25 Apr 2006 05:11:43 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: ceo@l-i-e.com via o2.hostbaby.com X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.25 (Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.06563 secs) Received: from unknown (HELO l-i-e.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Apr 2006 05:11:43 -0000 Received: from 67.184.121.112 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ceo@l-i-e.com) by www.l-i-e.com with HTTP; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 00:11:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <51553.67.184.121.112.1145941903.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> In-Reply-To: <444D475B.1060200@zend.com> References: <444D475B.1060200@zend.com> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 00:11:43 -0500 (CDT) To: "php-dev" Reply-To: ceo@l-i-e.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] more candidates for PECL From: ceo@l-i-e.com ("Richard Lynch") On Mon, April 24, 2006 4:47 pm, Antony Dovgal wrote: > I'd like to propose yet another bunch of extensions to be moved from > core to PECL. > (Don't worry, this is for 5.2 and HEAD. 5.1 is untouchable atm). This naive reader thinks it should be targeted at 6.0 release, as it seems like pretty major changes to me... There might not be anybody using Hyperwave, and the other extensions you specifically named are probably not actively used since they are broken. But the odds are pretty good that somebody somewhere has legacy code that is still using something that's in your criteria/list, and is going to be affected by "missing" functionality from 5.1 to 5.2 There's also the possibility that moving all that stuff could have unforeseen results -- the kind of bug/issue that takes a long time to detect, much less correct. "You can't change just one thing" I'm agreeing 100% to move it out of core and into PECL! I just think the timing should be on a major release (6.0) and not a minor one (5.x) since the changes to code-base seem rather large and wide-sweeping, even if the functionality and userbase are believed to be negligible. Why tick off that one developer by "removing" functionality in an upgrade, when that's only supposed to happen in a major release? jmho -- Like Music? http://l-i-e.com/artists.htm