Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:22701 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 14870 invoked by uid 1010); 10 Apr 2006 12:05:59 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 14837 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2006 12:05:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Apr 2006 12:05:59 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 195.197.172.115 gw01.mail.saunalahti.fi Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from ([195.197.172.115:37063] helo=gw01.mail.saunalahti.fi) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id 4B/61-09839-52A4A344 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 08:05:58 -0400 Received: from nest.netphobia.fi (YYYMYDCCCXXVIII.dsl.saunalahti.fi [85.76.33.29]) by gw01.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D456118E03; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:05:51 +0300 (EEST) Received: from nest.netphobia.fi (nest.netphobia.fi [127.0.0.1]) by nest.netphobia.fi (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k3AC5qrc018564; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:05:52 +0300 Received: from localhost (jani@localhost) by nest.netphobia.fi (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with ESMTP id k3AC5qt1018561; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:05:52 +0300 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:05:52 +0300 (EEST) Reply-To: Jani Taskinen To: "Ford, Mike" cc: crisp at tweakers dot net , internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RE: #36983 [Bgs] (Meaning of "Bogus") From: sniper@iki.fi (Jani Taskinen) We've had this discussion in the past and the conclusion was that there's nothing bogus with bogus. :) Move along, nothing to see here.. --Jani On Mon, 10 Apr 2006, Ford, Mike wrote: > On 05 April 2006 21:22, crisp at tweakers dot net wrote: > >> ID: 36983 >> User updated by: crisp at tweakers dot net >> Reported By: crisp at tweakers dot net >> Status: Bogus >> >> That last remark is taking my well-meant criticism to the extreme; >> surely you will know that that was not what I meant. >> 'bogus' has a negative ring to it - at least it does for me as a >> non-native English-speaking person. > > Redirecting this to internals@ as I want to comment but don't think the > public bugs forum is appropriate. > > As an English-native English speaker, I've long been dissatisfied with the > "Bogus" status. To me, "bogus" means false, fake, fraudulent, made-up > with intent to deceive; I've come to understand that it is not so strongly > negative in American English, but nonetheless it still jars every time I > see it. > > As an international project, should PHP not strongly consider changing > something that has such bad connotations for a significant part of the > English-speaking community? Even if you (we) avoid offending only a > handful of people, is that not a worthwhile payback? > > Not sure what you'd use as a replacement -- "Not PHP Bug" sounds good, but > doesn't really work for submissions currently bogussed for being > duplicates. > > Thoughts? > > Cheers! > > Mike > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mike Ford, Electronic Information Services Adviser, > Learning Support Services, Learning & Information Services, > JG125, James Graham Building, Leeds Metropolitan University, > Headingley Campus, LEEDS, LS6 3QS, United Kingdom > Email: m.ford@leedsmet.ac.uk > Tel: +44 113 283 2600 extn 4730 Fax: +44 113 283 3211 > >