Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:22298 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 48755 invoked by uid 1010); 9 Mar 2006 17:48:00 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 48740 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2006 17:47:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Mar 2006 17:47:59 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 80.74.107.235 mail.zend.com Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from ([80.74.107.235:15323] helo=mail.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id F2/7C-27106-E4A60144 for ; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 12:47:59 -0500 Received: (qmail 32561 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2006 17:47:55 -0000 Received: from shire.zend.office (10.1.2.160) by internal.zend.office with SMTP; 9 Mar 2006 17:47:55 -0000 Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 19:47:55 +0200 (IST) X-X-Sender: frodo@shire.zend.office To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?David_Z=FClke?= cc: internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <01205998-0B89-45D1-A09C-7943D0D7FC5B@bitxtender.com> Message-ID: References: <7.0.1.0.2.20060309124054.06c31238@zend.com> <01205998-0B89-45D1-A09C-7943D0D7FC5B@bitxtender.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Give the Language a Rest motion From: stas@zend.com (Stanislav Malyshev) DZ>>The web is one of the most quickly changing areas in computer technology. DZ>>PHP, being primarily a language for web sites and applications, has to DZ>>change constantly in order to be able to remain competitive. And it still I don't see any real connection between new Web technologies and changing PHP language. Most of the new technologies are not related to any language features. If you want to support AJAX, you don't need any change in the syntax of the language itself - you need good extension and yes, framework - or standard library - support, so it would be easy to implement this technology. I have yet to see one example of new Web technology that is not possible to implement using existing PHP syntax, especially if we talk about PHP5 OO capabilities. While there definitely can be improvements made to PHP (and I think, for example, packages issue is one of the areas this might happen), changing language is much more significant step than adding an extension and needs much more thorough thinking through. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Products Engineer stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/ +972-3-6139665 ext.115