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Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 14:48:02 -0800
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] True labelled breaks
From: andi@zend.com (Andi Gutmans)

It's just something which to begin with isn't used that much.
Grep'ed phpweb/ for it and found 0 occurrences of break n; and I 
believe the people developing it would be the ones who would know how 
to use it.

Andi

At 02:33 PM 2/18/2006, Steph Fox wrote:
>I personally find working with numbers difficult, which is why I'm 
>wholly in support of this patch.
>
>I doubt I'm the only PHP user with that issue, due to the 'ease of 
>use' that allows people with no history of computer science to write 
>useful scripts (for which, thank you all). But I wouldn't expect a 
>great deal of sympathy on that point from CS graduates.
>
>nb I think implementing goto/equivalent itself is a fairly bad idea 
>- I appear to be in the minority on that issue. But I don't see any 
>problem with introducing labels, I just see it as a more 
>user-friendly way of allowing nested breaks.
>
>Am I very wrong?
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Andi Gutmans" <andi@zend.com>
>To: "Steph Fox" <steph@zend.com>; "internals" <internals@lists.php.net>
>Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:30 PM
>Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] True labelled breaks
>
>
>>I think that in 1997 when break/continue n where implemented it 
>>would have been a nice idea, but at this stage except for being 
>>more elegant than break/continue n it doesn't truly add anything 
>>substantial to PHP (and as you already mentioned it's orthogonal to 
>>the goto discussion). I think having more than 1 way of doing the 
>>same thing, in this case, might just end up confusing people 
>>developing with PHP (i.e. the Perl way :)
>>
>>Just for the record I am coming at this from an open mind. Dmitry 
>>did spend time on this patch, etc...
>>
>>I'd recommend to bed it once and for all.
>>
>>At 09:16 AM 2/18/2006, Steph Fox wrote:
>>>Guys and guyess,
>>>
>>>Sara and Dmitry's patch to introduce labelled breaks was discussed 
>>>on internals@ ever-so-briefly at the beginning of December, but 
>>>there was never any decision made over it.
>>>
>>>Given that practically everyone who survived the preceding GOTO 
>>>discussion seemed to think it was a good idea at the time, could 
>>>you please re-visit it, evaluate it, discuss it (as opposed to 
>>>talking about GOTO, which is unrelated) and either OK it or put it 
>>>to bed for once and for all?
>>>
>>>Relevant summary is at http://www.zend.com/zend/week/week265.php#Heading3
>>>Relevant patch is at http://www.zend.com/zend/week/pat/index.php
>>>
>>>And if it's worth anything, +1 from me.
>>>
>>>- Steph
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