Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:21921 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 45424 invoked by uid 1010); 18 Feb 2006 22:33:54 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 45409 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2006 22:33:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 Feb 2006 22:33:54 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 192.38.9.232 gw2.emini.dk Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from ([192.38.9.232:13767] helo=gw2.emini.dk) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id 76/DD-23065-0D0A7F34 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 17:33:53 -0500 Received: from foxbox (IGLD-84-228-50-112.inter.net.il [84.228.50.112]) by gw2.emini.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id E280EA3E52; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 23:33:47 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <04e401c634db$69a82ff0$6402a8c0@foxbox> Reply-To: "Steph Fox" To: "internals" , "Andi Gutmans" References: <045701c634af$050b5df0$6402a8c0@foxbox> <7.0.1.0.2.20060218112459.03e617c0@zend.com> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 00:33:58 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] True labelled breaks From: steph@zend.com ("Steph Fox") I personally find working with numbers difficult, which is why I'm wholly in support of this patch. I doubt I'm the only PHP user with that issue, due to the 'ease of use' that allows people with no history of computer science to write useful scripts (for which, thank you all). But I wouldn't expect a great deal of sympathy on that point from CS graduates. nb I think implementing goto/equivalent itself is a fairly bad idea - I appear to be in the minority on that issue. But I don't see any problem with introducing labels, I just see it as a more user-friendly way of allowing nested breaks. Am I very wrong? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andi Gutmans" To: "Steph Fox" ; "internals" Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] True labelled breaks >I think that in 1997 when break/continue n where implemented it would have >been a nice idea, but at this stage except for being more elegant than >break/continue n it doesn't truly add anything substantial to PHP (and as >you already mentioned it's orthogonal to the goto discussion). I think >having more than 1 way of doing the same thing, in this case, might just >end up confusing people developing with PHP (i.e. the Perl way :) > > Just for the record I am coming at this from an open mind. Dmitry did > spend time on this patch, etc... > > I'd recommend to bed it once and for all. > > At 09:16 AM 2/18/2006, Steph Fox wrote: >>Guys and guyess, >> >>Sara and Dmitry's patch to introduce labelled breaks was discussed on >>internals@ ever-so-briefly at the beginning of December, but there was >>never any decision made over it. >> >>Given that practically everyone who survived the preceding GOTO discussion >>seemed to think it was a good idea at the time, could you please re-visit >>it, evaluate it, discuss it (as opposed to talking about GOTO, which is >>unrelated) and either OK it or put it to bed for once and for all? >> >>Relevant summary is at http://www.zend.com/zend/week/week265.php#Heading3 >>Relevant patch is at http://www.zend.com/zend/week/pat/index.php >> >>And if it's worth anything, +1 from me. >> >>- Steph >>-- >>PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List >>To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > __________ NOD32 1.1380 (20060125) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > >