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Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 08:40:59 -0800
To: Marian Kostadinov <manchokapitancho@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] namespace separator poll, update
From: buddhahead@gmail.com (Sebastian)

It's used for shell execution stuff.

Perl did something similar and quickly regretted it

On 11/28/05, Marian Kostadinov <manchokapitancho@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is ` (back quote) suitable for namespace separator? I cannot remember
> just now if it was used somewhere.
>
> 2005/11/28, Ron Korving <r.korving@xit.nl>:
> > wow, I like foo~>bar~>obj->method()
> > I love ':' best, but if that really can't be, I must say '~>' looks pre=
tty
> > cool to me, cute even, like a little fishie ;)
> >
> > anywaaay.. the best alternative to ':' i've seen so far, and i doubt it=
'll
> > cause problems with any existing operator.
> >
> > - ron
> >
> >
> >
> > ""Ford, Mike"" <M.Ford@leedsmet.ac.uk> schreef in bericht
> > news:CDA511FF6152D14E922434CE338CE8BB275841@leedsmet-exch1.leedsmet.ac.=
uk...
> > On 28 November 2005 09:50, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
> >
> > > > > BUT the discussion is not only about possibility but also about
> > > > > what you would like. The ":" for example would work if mandatory
> > > > > whitespace would be introduced for the ternary BUT this is very
> > > > > very bad.
> > >
> > > If my vote is counted (not that I asked for it :) then I vote against
> > > all funky syntax, present and future. :: is only thing that is
> > > obvious and somehow connected to the world of PHP as we know it now.
> >
> >
> > Wow!  I go home early on a Friday, and come back to a veritable php-dev
> > flood in my Inbox! That must be the most active weekend since I started
> > reading the list!!
> >
> > My point of view is similar to Stanislav's: any operator chosen should =
have
> > some echo of existing syntax -- this rules out the original suggestion =
of \
> > and many of the suggested alternatives.  I'm also completely against an=
y
> > solution that introduces new enforced whitespace, however unlikely the
> > construct -- that just doesn't seem like "the PHP way".
> >
> > The two existing "class to member" operators are :: and ->, so I'd be
> > looking at analogues of these.  I'm not keen on :: itself performing
> > double-duty here, and I hate ::: and most of the repeated-character
> > suggestions (%%, .., **, etc.) -- especially as the single-character
> > versions all have completely unrelated meanings.
> >
> > This leaves me looking for something not dissimilar to ->.  It's a sham=
e
> > that =3D> is already taken, as that would have done nicely.  :> (or ::>=
),
> > despite their smiley-ness, are actually quite clever suggestions, conta=
ining
> > echoes of both :: and -> -- I'd be ok with either of these.  Another
> > possibility I haven't seen offered, and that has strong echoes of ->, i=
s ~>.
> > I can't see any conflicts here, it's sufficiently similar to be obvious=
ly
> > related, but sufficiently different to be easily distinguished.
> >
> > What do people think?
> >
> > (Space for flame here...)
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Mike Ford,  Electronic Information Services Adviser,
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