Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:20551 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 47847 invoked by uid 1010); 26 Nov 2005 14:31:28 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 47832 invoked from network); 26 Nov 2005 14:31:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Nov 2005 14:31:28 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 195.226.6.9 darkcity.gna.ch Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from ([195.226.6.9:50042] helo=darkcity.gna.ch) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id BC/13-56276-EB178834 for ; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 09:31:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by darkcity.gna.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1029113BADD; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 15:31:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from unknown by localhost (amavisd-new, unix socket) id client-XX0peju2; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 15:31:21 +0100 (CET) Received: by darkcity.gna.ch (Postfix, from userid 65534) id BAC2513BAD9; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 15:31:21 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on darkcity.gna.ch X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from [192.168.1.44] (80-219-9-18.dclient.hispeed.ch [80.219.9.18]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by darkcity.gna.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFECE13BACF; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 15:31:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4388726A.8050803@cschneid.com> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 15:34:18 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcus Boerger Cc: PHP internals References: <7.0.0.16.2.20051124161240.0573e640@zend.com> <20051125034515.6fefa4e2@localhost.localdomain> <43867C6C.2010209@prohost.org> <20051125040950.26305e08@localhost.localdomain> <43869FC5.4060708@lerdorf.com> <20051125075501.79718ee6@localhost.localdomain> <1132903004.9936.25.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1086017308.20051125091648@marcus-boerger.de> <01.D8.11378.05EC6834@pb1.pair.com> <1946534082.20051125100920@marcus-boerger.de> <4386D5C6.8040802@php.net> <4386E355.7020901@cschneid.com> <43870917.5070409@prohost.org> <43870E22.8000309@cschneid.com> <955021720.20051125202818@marcus-boerger.de> <4387AF5F.4080204@cschneid.com> <1846537918.20051126133827@marcus-boerger.de> In-Reply-To: <1846537918.20051126133827@marcus-boerger.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gna.ch Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.1 (Or How to break tousands of apps out there) From: cschneid@cschneid.com (Christian Schneider) Marcus Boerger wrote: >>PS: I'd rather have : for namespaces with the whitespace restriction for >>? a:x : b:y than the confusing (escaping characters outside of a >>string?) backslash. > > And kill trillions of php scripts, how funny. Think before writing. From Jessie's statements I was assuming that ONLY in the ternary case you would need whitespaces/parens to disambiguate the expression. That would break way less PHP scripts than, say, a core Date class ;-) If that's not the case then the situation is different. My bad for not getting around to try his patch, so I still don't know. But there's still no need for a blow below the belt, I _am_ thinking before I write. Could everybody please move on now? That means can someone who (according to the PHP developers) is in charge decide what's going to happen regarding the date class? Because everything else has time but date needs a decision now. Thanks, - Chris