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Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 21:10:28 +0100
Reply-To: Marcus Boerger <helly@php.net>
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To: Matthias Pigulla <mp@webfactory.de>
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Subject: Re: AW: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.1 (Or How to break tousands of apps outthere)
From: helly@php.net (Marcus Boerger)

Hello Matthias,

  i think you didn't understand the whole point here. Naming something
after an every day word just like 'Date' is like screaming for problems in
bigger scenarios. It is a beginners mistake to not prefix such stuff.
And if you weren't in a big project - well then simply rename your few
hundred lines of code. Use some nice tools like Ultraedit since your a
windows user the renaming is only a few clicks a way.

marcus

Friday, November 25, 2005, 12:39:45 PM, you wrote:

>> I didn't say that my code is more important, but if we don't 
>> get the date class now, we will get it in 5.1.1 and then 
>> break your code - so that doesn't really matter. THe only 
>> correct solution is to start prefixing the pear date class, 
>> as that needs to be done in the long run anyway.

> Derick, this is not only about the PEAR date class but about pretty much
> every larger PHP codebase/project. You don't seem to understand the
> impact.

>> No no, the core reserves the right to name whatever they 
>> want, it's the userland code that is responsible for 
>> prefixing their classes.

> Actually I just decided to work through my 100,000 lines of code and
> rename every class; for the sake of forwards compatibility, I'll
> generate GUIDs for each class and keep a mapping table on my desktop.
> Oh, and while I'm at it, I'll switch over to some other language as
> well.

> -mp.

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Best regards,
 Marcus