Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:20431 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 64976 invoked by uid 1010); 25 Nov 2005 19:49:10 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 64960 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2005 19:49:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Nov 2005 19:49:09 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.55.154.23 relay3.ptmail.sapo.pt Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from ([212.55.154.23:57112] helo=sapo.pt) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id 05/25-56276-4BA67834 for ; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 14:49:09 -0500 Received: (qmail 21945 invoked by uid 0); 25 Nov 2005 19:49:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sapo.pt) (10.134.35.158) by relay3 with SMTP; 25 Nov 2005 19:49:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 1038 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2005 19:49:05 -0000 X-AntiVirus: PTMail-AV 0.3.87.1 X-Virus-Status: Clean (0.00548 seconds) Received: from unknown (HELO pc07653) (nunoplopes@sapo.pt@[81.193.152.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mta8 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 25 Nov 2005 19:49:05 -0000 Message-ID: <00db01c5f1f9$4a7db430$0100a8c0@pc07653> To: "Andi Gutmans" , "Rasmus Lerdorf" Cc: References: <7.0.0.16.2.20051124161240.0573e640@zend.com><20051125034515.6fefa4e2@localhost.localdomain><43867C6C.2010209@prohost.org><20051125040950.26305e08@localhost.localdomain><43869FC5.4060708@lerdorf.com><20051125075501.79718ee6@localhost.localdomain><1132903004.9936.25.camel@localhost.localdomain><1086017308.20051125091648@marcus-boerger.de><438709AC.3020808@prohost.org><43870FE6.7040609@prohost.org><43873C62.6030602@lerdorf.com> <7.0.0.16.2.20051125091637.02c6da38@zend.com> Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 19:49:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.1 (Or How to break thousands of appsout there) From: nlopess@php.net ("Nuno Lopes") >I must say that I feel deceived by this. > Derick and I agreed that this won't be enabled for 5.1, and he then took > advantage of the fact that release managers changed to enable his class. > Doesn't leave a good taste in my mouth and it shouldn't happen again in > future. > > Andi Just to clarify, it was Ilia who enabled the class, but just to move the constants there. All methods are still disabled. >>As I stated before, core PHP does reserve the right to pick up the most >>obvious keywords as we come up with new functionality, and I think we >>should have a date class, but we should do it in an orderly manner and >>give people some time to migrate to something that actually makes sense. >> >>-Rasmus Right! And changing a class name from a PHP program takes just a few seconds.. Nuno