Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:20409 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 44466 invoked by uid 1010); 25 Nov 2005 14:21:41 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 44451 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2005 14:21:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Nov 2005 14:21:41 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 80.249.110.212 xian.ncuk.net Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from ([80.249.110.212:49717] helo=xian.ncuk.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id 4A/A7-56276-3FD17834 for ; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 09:21:40 -0500 To: internals@lists.php.net Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 14:19:56 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9 Cc: Oliver =?iso-8859-1?q?Gr=E4tz?= References: <7.0.0.16.2.20051124161240.0573e640@zend.com> <90.0E.56276.6D207834@pb1.pair.com> In-Reply-To: <90.0E.56276.6D207834@pb1.pair.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1510031.RaiKuZM957"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <200511251419.56809.pookey@pookey.co.uk> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.1 (Or How to break tousands of apps out there) From: pookey@pookey.co.uk ("Ian P. Christian") --nextPart1510031.RaiKuZM957 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 25 November 2005 12:25, Oliver Gr=E4tz wrote: > Just two cents from a user's point of view: If you had put all the time > you invested in this flame war about ONE class into already introducing > namespaces (e.g. Core\Date or Core:Date or Core::Date, with a notev that > I hate the \ syntax) with 5.1.0, it could have been in there already. I can't help but add that I couldn't agree more. This would not have been a problem if namespaces we planned for inclusion i= n=20 PHP6, and this data change was held back till then. PEAR could be moved to it's own namespace... import net.php.pear.date; =46or example. Also, with you 100% on the \ syntax. Jessie and others - keep up the good work. As a side note, where is the offical roadmap for the PHP project? what's th= e=20 nice easy to follow tables that show what features are being planned for=20 future relases and the current state of these features, and who's working o= n=20 them? If you're not sure what I mean, take a look at how KDE does what's=20 called 'project management' eg: a features plan, where users would have seen that date is forthcoming http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.5-features.html and a nice, clearly formatted release schedue, with ETAs for code. http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.5-release-plan.html =2D-=20 Ian P. Christian ~ http://pookey.co.uk --nextPart1510031.RaiKuZM957 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBDhx2M6jsuvK/fgkoRAqhTAKDgly1jpCG6pArD9QW9G94q4iKW2gCgiZeW aizs51p8I/Y+Xh81MKXXfVg= =kGpV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1510031.RaiKuZM957--