Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:20399 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 3260 invoked by uid 1010); 25 Nov 2005 13:24:56 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 3239 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2005 13:24:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Nov 2005 13:24:55 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 84.56.4.230 dslb-084-056-004-230.pools.arcor-ip.net Received: from ([84.56.4.230:29210] helo=localhost.localdomain) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id 77/C1-56276-5A017834 for ; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 08:24:53 -0500 To: internals@lists.php.net,ilia@prohost.org (Ilia Alshanetsky) Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 14:25:09 +0100 Message-ID: <20051125142509.4a01af24@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <43870FE6.7040609@prohost.org> References: <7.0.0.16.2.20051124161240.0573e640@zend.com> <20051125034515.6fefa4e2@localhost.localdomain> <43867C6C.2010209@prohost.org> <20051125040950.26305e08@localhost.localdomain> <43869FC5.4060708@lerdorf.com> <20051125075501.79718ee6@localhost.localdomain> <1132903004.9936.25.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1086017308.20051125091648@marcus-boerger.de> <438709AC.3020808@prohost.org> <43870FE6.7040609@prohost.org> Reply-To: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Newsreader: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.14 (GTK+ 2.8.6; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Posted-By: 84.56.4.230 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.1 (Or How to break tousands of apps out there) From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre) On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 08:21:42 -0500 ilia@prohost.org (Ilia Alshanetsky) wrote: > Bottom line there is a problem and we need a fix for it. One solution > that has been suggested is to revert the date class and release 5.1.1, > but this means we pretty much deny ourselves the ability to have a > native "Date" class in PHP. Is this really the only fix we can come > up with? It is the only fix, breaking Derick's code is the bigest problem we will have. The fact is we should have done that in php6, there we are "allowed" to do it and our userbase will have plenty of times to be warned or update their codes. --Pierre