Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:20398 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 2203 invoked by uid 1010); 25 Nov 2005 13:24:22 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 2187 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2005 13:24:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Nov 2005 13:24:22 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 192.38.9.232 gw2.emini.dk Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from ([192.38.9.232:5345] helo=gw2.emini.dk) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id 7F/91-56276-58017834 for ; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 08:24:22 -0500 Received: from [10.0.0.18] (palestine.intra.emini.dk [10.0.0.18]) by gw2.emini.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7CF90CC7; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 14:24:19 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43871082.8050305@emini.dk> Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 14:24:18 +0100 Organization: Emini A/S User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ilia Alshanetsky Cc: Sascha Schumann , internals@lists.php.net References: <7.0.0.16.2.20051124161240.0573e640@zend.com> <20051125034515.6fefa4e2@localhost.localdomain> <43867C6C.2010209@prohost.org> <20051125040950.26305e08@localhost.localdomain> <43869FC5.4060708@lerdorf.com> <20051125075501.79718ee6@localhost.localdomain> <1132903004.9936.25.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1086017308.20051125091648@marcus-boerger.de> <438709AC.3020808@prohost.org> <43870FE6.7040609@prohost.org> In-Reply-To: <43870FE6.7040609@prohost.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 OpenPGP: id=157D0FA8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.1 (Or How to break tousands of apps out there) From: edink@emini.dk (Edin Kadribasic) Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: > Sascha Schumann wrote: > >> I've seen that text. It is hidden at the end of a paragraph >> not related to the topic at all (something about class >> constants). As such it is totally inadequate. There should >> be a prominent point in the release announcement about >> reserved symbols. > > > Does this include anytime a new function/class is added we need to make > a prominent notice about since it reserves some name space? > > Bottom line there is a problem and we need a fix for it. One solution > that has been suggested is to revert the date class and release 5.1.1, > but this means we pretty much deny ourselves the ability to have a > native "Date" class in PHP. Is this really the only fix we can come up with? To start with we remove the Date class and release 5.1.1 immediately. Then we come back and discuss how to solve the actual problem in a proper manner and in a proper forum (here). Edin