Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:20395 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 92189 invoked by uid 1010); 25 Nov 2005 13:10:03 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 92174 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2005 13:10:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Nov 2005 13:10:03 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 84.60.50.21 dslb-084-060-050-021.pools.arcor-ip.net Received: from ([84.60.50.21:21024] helo=localhost.localdomain) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id 1C/B0-56276-B2D07834 for ; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 08:10:03 -0500 Message-ID: <1C.B0.56276.B2D07834@pb1.pair.com> To: internals@lists.php.net Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 14:09:58 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7.0.0.16.2.20051124161240.0573e640@zend.com> <20051125034515.6fefa4e2@localhost.localdomain> <43867C6C.2010209@prohost.org> <20051125040950.26305e08@localhost.localdomain> <43869FC5.4060708@lerdorf.com> In-Reply-To: <43869FC5.4060708@lerdorf.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Posted-By: 84.60.50.21 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.1 (Or How to break tousands of apps out there) From: oliver.graetz@arcor.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Oliver_Gr=E4tz?=) Rasmus Lerdorf schrieb: > Pierre, I agree with you that it was a bad idea to turn on the stub date > class in the final release candidate giving people less than a week to > notice that we now conflict with a common pear class. We get all the > breakage and none of the benefits and nobody had any time to prepare the > pear side of the house for this. It also sucks that not a single pear > person tested the final RC and brought this up in the past week. There > is plenty of blame to go around here. Less than a week? OK; I'm just a private programmer and not from the PEAR team. I am not compiling my own PHP, I use Debian with the ~dexter builds. I got my RC6 YESTERDAY! And it breaks my code. I would have commented on this but just minutes later I learned that 5.1.0 had been released. Five minutes notice, now that's tight schedule. OLLi