Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:20375 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 46059 invoked by uid 1010); 25 Nov 2005 11:35:03 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 46043 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2005 11:35:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Nov 2005 11:35:03 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 66.249.82.198 xproxy.gmail.com Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from ([66.249.82.198:48198] helo=xproxy.gmail.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id 78/F9-56276-7E6F6834 for ; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 06:35:03 -0500 Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t10so459518wxc for ; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 03:35:00 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=h/j78kLf4JVkPXE3u67+Tv4VHfhEuHvRq0AzqcA1axFk2T6iFeeqQIHiTXkX4SYwB6QFIEEqR+JS4EpkJmH1kRHN8vXq1M2/QSNyUUB/c/KsvTR4DmXcX/xQuF8mQ/ebbANs72VIx2fxZTG5ye10H79kajBXtdzl0r123S7lSZA= Received: by 10.70.50.11 with SMTP id x11mr7154073wxx; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 03:35:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.10.7 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 03:35:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <818043770511250335o49797944m4ce9101a3e92a748@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:35:00 +0100 Sender: sebastian.kugler@gmail.com To: Derick Rethans Cc: Sascha Schumann , internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <7.0.0.16.2.20051124161240.0573e640@zend.com> <1086017308.20051125091648@marcus-boerger.de> <818043770511250313u5681fd5ama3cc67fe4031db44@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.1 (Or How to break tousands of apps out there) From: sk@webfactory.de (Sebastian Kugler) > > So why > > don't you just patch your own PHP for that purpose? Because you're a > > core developer? > > No, because that was a bug fix which people still don't get. At least I got it and we swallowed that bitter pill in 4.4.0 that lots of our OO PHP client projects broke unadvertedly with the bugfix release. But as you imply, the date issue is _not_ a bugfix so there is even less an acceptable reason to introduce it in RC 6! If it was oversighted before RC 1, a professional process should prevent it from being incorporated in 5.1 at all. What sense does it make to test an RC 1 if you can't be sure that PHP won't introduce the major BC breaks before RC 5? ;-)