Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:20373 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 43533 invoked by uid 1010); 25 Nov 2005 11:31:45 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 43518 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2005 11:31:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Nov 2005 11:31:45 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 82.94.239.5 jdi.jdi-ict.nl Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from ([82.94.239.5:57883] helo=jdi.jdi-ict.nl) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id E1/89-56276-026F6834 for ; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 06:31:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jdi.jdi-ict.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jAPBVguY001154; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:31:42 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jdi.jdi-ict.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jAPBVcBi001149; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:31:39 +0100 Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:31:38 +0100 (CET) X-X-Sender: derick@localhost To: Matthias Pigulla cc: internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <00A2E2156BEE8446A81C8881AE117F192C1D02@companyweb> Message-ID: References: <00A2E2156BEE8446A81C8881AE117F192C1D02@companyweb> X-Face: "L'&?Ah3MYF@FB4hU'XhNhLB]222(Lbr2Y@F:GE[OO;"F5p>qtFBl|yVVA&D{A(g3[C}mG:199P+5C'v.M/u@Z\![0b:Mv.[l6[uWl' MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at jdi-ict.nl Subject: Re: AW: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.1 (Or How to break tousands of apps outthere) From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans) On Fri, 25 Nov 2005, Matthias Pigulla wrote: > > > Yes, and that will break code again as I just explained to > > Sebastian Kettler. And it will break *my* code ;-) > > Too bad I don't find the right mail to qoute you now literally - but > nobody forces you to use the official PHP codebase for your stuff; go > ahead and maintain releases for yourself. I am sure that that quote would have been taken out of context though. > In no way I have contributed as much as you but that does not stop me > from stating that this is once again a maximum credible accident for the > PHP project as a whole; and once again the way you comment on this as > one of the very core developers is major PR disaster. I don't see so, calling the class "date" is the only proper name for it. Other applications are going to break regardless of in which version 5.1.0/5.1.1 we would have introduced it. We thought it was better to do it in 5.1.0 instead, and unfortunately it made it into a too late release candidate. Derick -- Derick Rethans http://derickrethans.nl | http://ez.no | http://xdebug.org