Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:20372 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 42074 invoked by uid 1010); 25 Nov 2005 11:29:43 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 42059 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2005 11:29:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Nov 2005 11:29:43 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 82.94.239.5 jdi.jdi-ict.nl Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from ([82.94.239.5:57974] helo=jdi.jdi-ict.nl) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id 64/49-56276-7A5F6834 for ; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 06:29:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jdi.jdi-ict.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jAPBTSWt000923; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:29:28 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jdi.jdi-ict.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jAPBTQ5V000916; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:29:27 +0100 Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:29:26 +0100 (CET) X-X-Sender: derick@localhost To: Christian Schneider cc: Sascha Schumann , internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <4386F325.5020102@cschneid.com> Message-ID: References: <7.0.0.16.2.20051124161240.0573e640@zend.com> <20051125034515.6fefa4e2@localhost.localdomain> <43867C6C.2010209@prohost.org> <20051125040950.26305e08@localhost.localdomain> <43869FC5.4060708@lerdorf.com> <20051125075501.79718ee6@localhost.localdomain> <1132903004.9936.25.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1086017308.20051125091648@marcus-boerger.de> <4386F325.5020102@cschneid.com> X-Face: "L'&?Ah3MYF@FB4hU'XhNhLB]222(Lbr2Y@F:GE[OO;"F5p>qtFBl|yVVA&D{A(g3[C}mG:199P+5C'v.M/u@Z\![0b:Mv.[l6[uWl' MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at jdi-ict.nl Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.1 (Or How to break tousands of apps outthere) From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans) On Fri, 25 Nov 2005, Christian Schneider wrote: > Does that mean your code is more important than all the lines of code > out there? You must be kidding. And as you stated yourself your code > hasn't even been released yet. I didn't say that my code is more important, but if we don't get the date class now, we will get it in 5.1.1 and then break your code - so that doesn't really matter. THe only correct solution is to start prefixing the pear date class, as that needs to be done in the long run anyway. > > Besides that, using "Date" and "Timezone" as classnames are the most > > sensible names for those classes and I do not think we should have change > > that. > > By the same logic the function file_get_contents() could be called get(). ? > Using generic names for core functionality in the global name space is a bad > thing, no matter how convenient the name might be. That's a lesson PHP has > learned for function names quite a while ago, let's not repeat the same > mistake for class names. No no, the core reserves the right to name whatever they want, it's the userland code that is responsible for prefixing their classes. Derick