Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:20354 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 1030 invoked by uid 1010); 25 Nov 2005 10:20:58 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 1015 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2005 10:20:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Nov 2005 10:20:58 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.160.175.43 p15119030.pureserver.info Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from ([217.160.175.43:43814] helo=chatserv.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id 30/A3-56276-985E6834 for ; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 05:20:57 -0500 Received: (qmail 2882 invoked by uid 1040); 25 Nov 2005 10:20:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Nov 2005 10:20:53 -0000 Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 11:20:53 +0100 (CET) X-X-Sender: sas@chatserv To: Derick Rethans cc: internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <7.0.0.16.2.20051124161240.0573e640@zend.com> <20051125034515.6fefa4e2@localhost.localdomain> <43867C6C.2010209@prohost.org> <20051125040950.26305e08@localhost.localdomain> <43869FC5.4060708@lerdorf.com> <20051125075501.79718ee6@localhost.localdomain> <1132903004.9936.25.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1086017308.20051125091648@marcus-boerger.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.1 (Or How to break tousands of apps out there) From: sascha@schumann.cx (Sascha Schumann) > No, as this breaks backwards compability. I have code written for this > and that is going to be released. If the class constants are removed, > you will break code that is out there. There were similar reasons why > Wez didn't want to change the odd PDO method because people were running > it production while PDO was not even beta - which is fine. But you can > definitely not change code in a released version. Derick, the Date class is in "a released version" because you sneaked it in through the backdoor. Activating a class in the final RC was obviously wrong and you are very well aware of the fact. Don't try to cover up now. - Sascha