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To: internals@lists.php.net,Marcus Boerger <helly@php.net>
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Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 03:26:22 -0500
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.1 (Or How to break tousands of apps out there)
From: jrhernandez05@gmail.com (Jessie Hernandez)

Marcus,

I have good news on this (I added both constants and function support!). 
  I will post the patch soon. There are still a few things that need to 
be discussed, but right now the functionality is a huge step forward.


Best regards,

Jessie


Marcus Boerger wrote:
> Hello Helgi,
> 
>   obviously one problem is that PEAR does ignore coding standards. Classes
> should be prefixed in both pear and core. And neither Date nor File is in
> any way prefixed. In th end all we see here is that we want namespaces asap.
> 
> One thing to discuss now is whether we want to put out 5.1.1 or even
> 5.1.0pl1 asap with Date in ext/Date renamed to something diferent.
> 
> best regards
> marcus
> 
> Friday, November 25, 2005, 8:40:47 AM, you wrote:
> 
> 
>>On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 15:16:43 +0800, Alan Knowles wrote:
> 
> 
>>>This one's a bit more annoying than usual ;)
>>>
>>>It will basically break application that depends on the Date package
>>>(eg. most of my code as DataObjects uses it internally).. Do we really
>>>need another barrier to upgrade to 5.*?
> 
> 
>>Yeah indeed, now I'll have a heap of a time when my customers want to
>>upgrade to PHP 5.1, I find it a bit odd to have this kind of breakage ...
>>didn't we have similar situation with PEAR::File and the SPL::File ? Which
>>was later renamed to FileObject so both could happily live side by side ?
>>(or is my memory failing me)
> 
> 
>>IMHO this should be rolled back in .1 and only introduced in PHP 6 (on by
>>default)
> 
> 
>>Rasmus mentioned that no PEAR person tested the final RC and all that and
>>thus this issue wasn't found ... Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that
>>change done between the final RC and the official release ?
> 
> 
>>Regards
>>Helgi
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
>  Marcus