Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:20338 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 30350 invoked by uid 1010); 25 Nov 2005 08:20:54 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 30335 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2005 08:20:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Nov 2005 08:20:54 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 194.73.73.220 c2bthomr05.btconnect.com FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) (2) Received: from ([194.73.73.220:23104] helo=C2bthomr05.btconnect.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id A1/E5-11378-669C6834 for ; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 03:20:54 -0500 Received: from [10.0.0.9] (host81-138-11-136.in-addr.btopenworld.com [81.138.11.136]) by C2bthomr05.btconnect.com (MOS 3.5.9-GR) with ESMTP id CTA51049; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 08:20:40 GMT Message-ID: <4386C95D.9020805@lsces.co.uk> Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 08:20:45 +0000 Organization: L.S.Caine Electronic Services User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050915 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rasmus Lerdorf CC: internals@lists.php.net References: <7.0.0.16.2.20051124161240.0573e640@zend.com> <20051125034515.6fefa4e2@localhost.localdomain> <43867C6C.2010209@prohost.org> <20051125040950.26305e08@localhost.localdomain> <43869FC5.4060708@lerdorf.com> <4386C1EF.7000601@lsces.co.uk> <4386C557.9080204@lerdorf.com> In-Reply-To: <4386C557.9080204@lerdorf.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.1 (Or How to break tousands of apps out there) From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > We have to find the balance > between meeting the stability requirements for the customers who are > perfectly happy with the featureset in PHP 4.x and don't want anything > to change, the folks who want the simpler XML handling, SOAP and > stronger OO in PHP 5 and then the group that need full Unicode support > yesterday. I'd be happy with that if the same people who claim to be happy with PHP4 did not complain when code I've produced for PHP5 and provide open sourced does not run for them - even given that most of the Firebird stuff was never back ported to PHP4 anyway! (Which is why I've never used PHP4 in production either) > We have a proposed roadmap for PHP 6 in terms of features and changes. > There are no dates on that roadmap because frankly that is impossible to > do in a project like this. That is one I am following with interest, and I have a large archive of unicode data ready to apply to the results :) But *PLEASE* can we have windows builds to play with from time to time ;) Some of us still do not have the tools to build one ourselves :( -- Lester Caine ----------------------------- L.S.Caine Electronic Services Treasurer - Firebird Foundation Inc.