Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:20333 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 12952 invoked by uid 1010); 25 Nov 2005 07:38:37 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 12936 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2005 07:38:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Nov 2005 07:38:37 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 85.197.195.95 dsl-195-95.hive.is Received: from ([85.197.195.95:18622] helo=localhost.localdomain) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id AC/44-11378-C7FB6834 for ; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 02:38:37 -0500 To: internals@lists.php.net Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 07:40:47 +0000 User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table) Message-ID: References: <7.0.0.16.2.20051124161240.0573e640@zend.com> <20051125034515.6fefa4e2@localhost.localdomain> <43867C6C.2010209@prohost.org> <20051125040950.26305e08@localhost.localdomain> <43869FC5.4060708@lerdorf.com> <20051125075501.79718ee6@localhost.localdomain> <1132903004.9936.25.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Posted-By: 85.197.195.95 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.1 (Or How to break tousands of apps out there) From: dufuz@php.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Helgi_=DEormar?=) On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 15:16:43 +0800, Alan Knowles wrote: > This one's a bit more annoying than usual ;) > > It will basically break application that depends on the Date package > (eg. most of my code as DataObjects uses it internally).. Do we really > need another barrier to upgrade to 5.*? Yeah indeed, now I'll have a heap of a time when my customers want to upgrade to PHP 5.1, I find it a bit odd to have this kind of breakage ... didn't we have similar situation with PEAR::File and the SPL::File ? Which was later renamed to FileObject so both could happily live side by side ? (or is my memory failing me) IMHO this should be rolled back in .1 and only introduced in PHP 6 (on by default) Rasmus mentioned that no PEAR person tested the final RC and all that and thus this issue wasn't found ... Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that change done between the final RC and the official release ? Regards Helgi