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Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 04:09:50 +0100
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.1 (Or How to break tousands of apps out
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From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre)

On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 21:52:28 -0500
ilia@prohost.org (Ilia Alshanetsky) wrote:

^
> Pierre first of all I put the change in after a discussion with Derick
> and a number of the while you were present btw. This was done to
> declare the date class for "future" proofing and allow isolation of
> date constants into a class, as is done for all new OO extensions.

You cannot trust Derick about ext/date, sorry.

He did not respect our decisions since he started to work on the TZ
support and force anyone to use the new implementation in 5.1.x.

I never agreed to anything Derick did in 5.x but was forced to shut up
and let him put some stupid object inside a #ifdef, as far as this crap
was in a #ifdef, yes I would have said, fine, we have time until php6.

> I'll pretend that by "crappy" you mean limited, which it is because
> all the methods are disabled till 5.1.1 when we will enable them to
> allow a extensive test cycle.

It is crap, I need one hour to do it and I doubt Derick has any good
plan about a real new Date object API in php

But this is _not_ the problem, and you know that.

--Pierre