Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:20285 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 29747 invoked by uid 1010); 24 Nov 2005 07:06:08 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 29731 invoked from network); 24 Nov 2005 07:06:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Nov 2005 07:06:08 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 62.24.64.34 smtp.dkm.cz FreeBSD 4.6-4.9 Received: from ([62.24.64.34:4660] helo=smtp.dkm.cz) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id CD/C4-11378-06665834 for ; Thu, 24 Nov 2005 02:06:08 -0500 Received: (qmail 97369 invoked by uid 0); 24 Nov 2005 04:00:43 -0000 Received: from r2v240.chello.upc.cz (62.245.85.240) by smtp.dkm.cz with SMTP; 24 Nov 2005 04:00:43 -0000 Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 05:00:38 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <478283507.20051124050038@vrana.cz> To: internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: PDM Meeting Notes From: vrana@php.net (Jakub Vrana) Derick Rethans wrote: > On 11 and 12 November a bunch of us had a developers meeting in Paris, > discussing the things we want to do for PHP 6. Partly because of the > Unicode support, but we also discussed the items on "Rasmus' wishlist" > and a lot of other items. I made a report of the discussions we had and > placed the notes here: > http://php.net/~derick/meeting-notes.html I really appreciate your effort in this and offer my feedback: > 4.5 Cleanup for {} vs. [] It was already discussed. Many people would be confused from documentation statement "[] was marked as deprecated in 4.0.6 - 5.1 but then suddenly {} was deprecated instead and removed in 6.0" and many scripts would refuse to work due to this. > 4.9 Make parameter order consistent over all functions Others talked probably about: str_replace(needle, replace, haystack) - compare with e.g. SQL REPLACE(haystack, needle, replace) ereg(pattern, haystack) etc. But I am also against changing the parameters order. > 4.10 Minor function changes: microtime() You showed that the most common usage of this function without parameters remain working (with E_NOTICE) but what's with other usages? Gain from this change is really minimal but cause that some code working in PHP 4 will not work in PHP 6 without ugly hacks. Jakub Vrana